Throttle quadrant - reverse?

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orchardair
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Throttle quadrant - reverse?

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Hi All,
I like the throttle quadrant design (sheet #27), but the more I think about it, the less sense it makes to me:
In my current airplane, and in most planes I have seen, there is no reversal of the throttle and mixture controls - push forward means full throttle / rich mixture.
The throttle quadrant design on page 27 shows that when you push the throttle level all the way forward, the control will reverse and pull the cable all the way back.
seems like this is what we need:
http://baxterquadrants.com/
http://baxterquadrants.com/
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What have others done?
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alvinsager
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Re: Throttle quadrant - reverse?

Post by alvinsager »

Hi,
My Lauzon fuselage for my CB-1 had a bracket welded to the upper longeron, about a foot aft of the firewall, which I used for a reversing belcrank. From there I used a flexible cable to the carb. I may be able to get a picture if you would like to see it.
Al
orchardair
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Re: Throttle quadrant - reverse?

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Al,
Thanks for the reply.
This reinforces my thought that the throttle quadrant which is included in the drawings of the Classic will require a reversal. Seems like it would be better to design the reversal into the throttle (like the one in the picture I attached in my original post) to begin with. The way I see it there are two options that will work:
non-reversing controls
non-reversing controls
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Forgive the crude drawing, it is for conveying the idea only. Option B would save some weight.
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orchardair
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Re: Throttle quadrant - reverse?

Post by orchardair »

I knew the internet would help. Here's Rick Hansen's solution:
Rick Hansen
Rick Hansen
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interconnect the two cockpits below, and connect to carburetor above the pivot point.
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Ebby
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Re: Throttle quadrant - reverse?

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Angle View
Angle View
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Plain view
Plain view
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Here is what I did. Pictures worth a thousand words.
Ebby
Hatz Classic S/N 37
Flying!
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